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    vistive beans? Posted by: mike on 10/9/2007 6:00:23 PM

    anyone grow any of the asgrow vistive beans? i had 50 acres and they yielded good and were 12.5 % moisture, but the stems were mighty green. i talked to several other growers who had the same experience. i am wondering if it is because we are so close ot the lake here or is it the nature of the bean?
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    ReplyReply all beans are green Posted by: itsmetoo on 10/9/2007 6:47:19 PM

    I have some vistive beans, but all of mine have had green stems and several leaves on them and been running 11.5 to 13. Had around an inch of rain Sunday night and Monday morning. It didn't knock any of the leaves off. Normally if you had a rain like that it would have knocked all the leaves off. I have looked at and combined several different brands and numbers of beans. The stems are all staying green.
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    ReplyReply Green stems Posted by: razor on 10/9/2007 8:18:12 PM

    Many green stems down here in West Central Indiana. It's taking much more fuel to cut beans than shell corn. My neighbor pulled out of one field with is IH rotary because he was afraid it was going to get torn up. Had another neighbor say that his Vistive beans had popped out on the ground badly. He thought at least five bpa.
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    ReplyReply Green stems Posted by: hushpuppy on 10/9/2007 10:13:27 PM

    Here in SESD our 2.6 beans are ready but our 2.2 beans have very green stems. Tried cutting our vistive 2.7 after dark and they combined much easier than the 2.2 green stems. I only got the ends off but they are regestering higher on the yield monitor.
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    ReplyReply Diquat Posted by: Nuffield on 10/9/2007 8:20:00 PM

    If its proving a problem at harvest simply dessicate with Sprayseed or diquat to dry the crop out. Commonly used here in Australia with lupins and even canola that is to be direct headed.
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    ReplyReply Dessicants- Posted by: jabber on 10/15/2007 6:08:01 AM

    Most of us in this area are cheap enough that we count on an overnight freeze or frost (poor man's defoliant) to get rid of the green stems. Our first frost here will be unusually late and is yet to come.
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    ReplyReply don't need dessicants Posted by: itsmetoo on 10/15/2007 7:42:38 AM

    I need a big blow dryer. I think the stems and leaves will be fine whenever I can get back to them now. Chance of rain all week. Doesn't look good.
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    ReplyReply vistive beans Posted by: Jeff on 10/15/2007 7:22:37 AM

    I grew Asgrow AG2921 and AG 3321 vistive beans. Harvested the 2921's last week and there were hardly any green stems so they ran through the combine well and yielded in the low 70's on good dirt. Started running the 3321's and there is more green stems so it slowed me down half mile and hour. But they are still yielding in the high 60's on variable soils. Moisture on both are running about 14% in the late morning and down to 12.5% by late afternoon. I am planting about 80% of my bean ground to Vistive. Very happy with them. SC IA.
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    ReplyReply Vistive beans Posted by: IHG on 10/15/2007 8:06:17 AM

    I grew about 50 acres of Vistive beans. They did alright at 62 bushels per acre which was about 2 bushels less than my other beans planted in the same field. I had no problems with green stems but some area farmers did. The question I have for you, are you able to deliver your Vistive beans over 13 % moisture? In my area of NW Iowa, we would have our loads rejected if they were 13.1 or over. We needed to wait to combine the beans until we were sure they were dry enough which usually means they are down to 10 % moisture and we lose bushels in combine loss and weight in town. Nice deal, right? If the end users really want us a producers to grow Vistive beans, they will need to relax that standard and they better pay much more than 60 cents per bushel premium or they will be without Vistive beans to make their low fat oil.
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    ReplyReply Ditto to IHG Posted by: Lyle Boeckholt on 10/15/2007 8:16:48 AM

    I've got the same issues as above.
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    ReplyReply too much basis Posted by: itsmetoo on 10/15/2007 8:28:01 AM

    The plant that I have a contract with is not even close to being competitive with their base price. I will leave them unnamed but it starts with a C and the plant is located in Des Moines. I can get a higher price locally in southern Iowa based off of river prices then I can get after I truck them 75 miles to DM. Takes half of the premium to get them there. Not sure its worth the hassel of booking delevery and cleaning out planter and combine for the $.30 that is left. If I plant them next year it will be with some one that is more interested in paying a fair price for them. And Cargill, I hope you hear me, I'm not alone. Opps, I wasn't going to name them. Oh well.
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    ReplyReply moisture of Vistive beans Posted by: IHG on 10/15/2007 8:57:42 AM

    itsmetoo, can you deliver the beans over 13%? I understand that if you store them on farm and run the fans, you can get them under 13 and therefore you could combine them wetter. My other concern is if you bring them to the elevator, they must be sold as cash beans or put under a delayed price contract. Do you have the same issues? My beans were contracted with AGP. Most of these things were not stated in the original contract.
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    ReplyReply vistive beans Posted by: Jeff on 10/15/2007 9:33:28 AM

    I delivered my beans to Cargill in Des Moines, 3 loads at 13.8% and 2 loads at 12.7% moisture. There was a little adjustment on the wetter beans but no rejections. So far Cargill has treated me fair on deliveries and grading of my beans.

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    Planted 90-plus acres vistive beans after wheat. S. Ia and variable soils. Planted July 6-8 and took about a week to get a decent rain. They will be combined by a good neighbor as I am away from the farm. By my reckoning, they got about 114 days until the first frost.(Fortunate!) Hope to know by next week the yield, I am just wondering if any of you would like to take a stab at guessing bushels, at first I was hoping for 15, but after massive rains in august and great rain in July, I really am getting anxious to find out.
    Like to read how things are going in the midwest, as the grain biz is really taking on a global dimension as to supply and demand.

    mike perdue