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    OK all of you seed guys and agronomist. What's the deal with this tall freakin corn? The dang stuff is as tall as the combine cab. Then when you get a wind and it goes down it reaches about 5 rows. Why so tall? If you can breed corn that will kill corn bore and root worms why can't you breed corn that gets about 5 feet tall with the ear the height of your thigh? Why the tall stuff, you hooked up with the corn reel guys. If some one pays you $100/acre for seed and the stuff goes down you should give your customers and corn reel instead of a hat.....or his money back.

  • #2
    3020, You can't put so much Viagra in the fertilizer.

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    • #3
      So THAT'S why it still has erect ears!!

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      • #4
        Duke I think he should have put in more so the corn would have stayed standing. LMAO
        Larry

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        • #5
          3020, you sure you didn't plant some of glowplug's Jung Silage corn???

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          • #6
            Well Ron ole buddy I think I know what the problem is and is not the corn that is the problem ! First off i have been at Rons place , good dirt ! But the real problem that I noticed was over fertilization ! I'm not talking about the store bought fert. either ! I'm talking about just WAY to much BS being spread over in Rush County !
            One day I stopped by Rons place to see how Chester was doing after his hip surgury , we were out by the bins talking along with his truck driver , boy's , Ron and the truck driver was REALLY spreading the BS while I was there ! I didn't have my tall boot's with me so had to cut the BS session short ! BTW you really need to know his driver --LMAO
            So Ron i think you may just need to move your BS spot around alittle more and that should take care of the problem , for you ole buddy --- NO charge , lol Ken

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            • #7
              I asked a breeder that same question. He said- "do you want me to choose for yield, disease resistance, genetic diversity, etc- or always choose for plant height? Bigger plants are bigger factories."

              Here's what we want-
              yield- every hybrid should be our best
              standability/ear retention- every stalk should stand until harvest
              drydown- every hybrid ought to dry fast in the field in cool, damp weather.
              plant/ear height- every hybrid ought to be just the right height.
              disease resistance- every hybrid ought to have adequate resistance to any disease we might get.
              emergence/early vigor- every plant ought to emerge and grow when we decide it is time to plant.
              The stalk rot ought to set in the very day that the corn head touches the stalk and devour the stalk to make it easy to get rid of.
              yadda, yadda, yadda

              The results? In the 7 p plots closest to my location there is a 110 day shorty with great agronomic characteristics that yielded an average of 185.5 in our hot dry July/ first 1/2 of August. The average yield in these same plots suggest that p has 9 hybrids that were higher in yield with four having a yield advantage of over 10 bushels per acre. The 111 day shorty will continue to be sold for things like defense on less than pristine soils, standability, yield stability, corn or corn defense, and cus it looks so durned nice. The taller hybrids each have some agronomic risks but yield will sell them. The sad fact is that the more picky we get on things like plant type, stalk/root strength, etc- the less high yielding hybrids we have to choose from. So called independent plots accelerate the shift to higher risk corn when they are primarily located on pristine soils with little comment on anything but yield and moisture per acre.

              PS- some of the competition's shorties were the first to die in the hot dry July we had here. Sun scald, Goss's Wilt, developing or corn rootworm resistance to YG RW, and Stewart's Wilt have all been mentioned as potential causes.
              “Democracy is the worst form of government, -------------------------------except for all the others.”

              ― Winston S. Churchill

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              • #8
                Man we need to get together so we can average out. Was picking corn yesterday with the head pretty much on the ground. Couldn't figure where all the corn on the ground was coming from. Ears were snapping roller high so I was cutting the ears in 2!

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                • #9
                  Ron, the corn isn't taller. As your combine gets closer to retirment age, it begins to shrink as we do. For a mere $350k you can buy a newer, taller combine on steroirds........jk
                  Life is Good!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by timdcrossley View Post
                    Ron, the corn isn't taller. As your combine gets closer to retirment age, it begins to shrink as we do. For a mere $350k you can buy a newer, taller combine on steroirds........jk
                    Tim -- LMAO you may have a point there ! Ron you still running that IH 303 ?

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                    • #11
                      speaking of older combines, slugged the 8820 late afternoon yesterday...first time since Oct 10, 1997....I remember that date,
                      first grand daughter was born the same day I slugged it...in corn...took another day of digging to get it cleared...and built a wrench
                      for the cylinder...laying on a perlin in the shop, it's heavy, BUT since I was in milo, was able to release the concaves about 38 turns
                      and was able to walk the slug out in just a couple pushes and tugs....finding out that a flex head works great picking up down
                      milo...if you can run into and across...wondering what that might do in corn? Milo stalks look like soybean fields where we
                      are having to clean it to the ground...stalks are still plenty wet...I'm hoping that's the real reason for the slug.

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                      • #12
                        I like tall corn , keeps the ears up and out of the rocks , but we dont have much BS as dose Ken...................LOL

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                        • #13
                          r3020: First off, you have to get corn planted EARLY...the last week of April. You plant silage corns late on purpose to make them grow tall.

                          jabber: Plant HEIGHT does not correlate to grain yield. It does correlate to SILAGE yield. Most modern hybrids have 21 leaves. The leaves are the the carbohydrate factory...not the stalks. If you have upright...pineapple...leaves, they will let in more sunlight (weeds love this too, lol). If you have big, wide leaves, you have a bigger factory. The problem is that breeders breed DUAL PURPOSE...SILAGE and grain. The first thing I do when picking a hybrid is look at the SILAGE section of the catalog to see if it is listed there too. That doesn't automatically rule it out, but if I can find a shorter corn with good yield and health, I will take it every time over a tall silage corn.

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                          • #14
                            48, send a row boat and some oars and the stuff will get planted the 2nd week in April.

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                            • #15
                              r3020: I know the wet/delayed he!! you guys went thru trying to plant. lol. JHF.

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