I sold some calves the other day some apeared to have a potbelly.I had put out high protein tubs the past few months with a creep gate to hold cows back thinking it would only help the calves grow ,but some of the buyers were saying that the were getting to much protein and to stop the tubs and only keep out mineral.Others are saying the direct opposite saying that the potbelly comes from possibly old cow and was a lack of protein,any idea's about protein tubs and calves?
potbelleid calves are a sign of a hungry calf. A protien tub is on of the last things those calves needed. They needed a good third cutting bale of alfalfa/brome or alfalfa/ orchard with maybe a little ground ear corn/hay in a feeder behind that gate. That protien tub just compounded the problem, they need high quallity natural feed, not that crap in a tub. They are babies until they are
at least 6-8 months old. The good feed probably wouldn't cost much more thasn that cr-p in a tub. The only good in that tub is the mineral/salt in it. buy a good mineral and loose salt and keep it fresh and dry. Those calves are no different than the potbellied kids they show on the adds on TV that need food, not a Hershey Bar.
Hey guys I appreciate the advice. I can already tell there will be no more protein tubs for me.I have always fed good hay and mineral.Had good luck untill now. I thought I would try something extra but with these results plus expence of tub it will be back to basics for me. God bless you all.
I used to use a tub for recongnition. I'd put one in the pen while weaning calves I had bought. Then when I turned them on the corn stalks I would put it by the entrance to the coral and water. It was easier to get them to come back for grain right from the start. In addition if I needed to get one in for treatment it would keep them close. I never had the belly problem that I knew of but, I always fed them out. I always grained my calves, you'd be surprised how quick that gets rid of the pot belly and muscles them up.
I sold my cows in the beginning of 08 and they couldn't get a bid on one of the calves so I brought it home. I was going to put a bullet between it's eyes because I wasn't about to let someone have it for 10 bucks, besides I knew it was a perfectly good calf.
My daughter ended up bottle feeding it. We then put it in the wind break inside a hot wire. It ate grass all summer and got a pot belly. Dad brought over two bucket of corn and we got it up to about 5 lbs of corn a day. As the grass ran out we added range cubes and thats all she got was corn and range cubes untill we took her over to my son's to put with his heifers. It lost it's pot belley when we started feeding the corn. Her hair slicked up too and she ended up looking like a keeper.
We had her bangs vacinated and my daughter demanded that we put a pink eartag in her ear with the calfs name "tulip". It will be her FFA project.
Corn is cattle feed.
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I acquired a weaned (early, maybe 2-3 months) bull calf last October that we are / were going to raise to slaughter however things seem to be going awry. He appears to be more belly than calf. He is feed along with the other cows they score a bcs of 6 or better. Just his belly alone scores a bcs of 7-8 the rest of him scores about a 4 at best. They all get hay, 20% range cubes and minerals and are up on all their vaccines etc... I have thought it could be some bloat? But he is not large on just his left side of his belly. He has been more belly than calf for sometime about 3 months now and he hasnít seemed to get much larger except his belly. He is about 9 months of age. Worms?? I was thinking of doubling up on wormer to see if that is the issue. How might I get him turned around and growing in the right direction? Heck I have one of my own steered calves that is only 4 months that is passing him by at a rapid pace.
that calf needed a different feed than was sufficient to keep the cows in BCS-6. He needed some pellets/creep feed that he could access that cows couldn't. This was in the early stages when you first got him.
Now that he's a 'poor-doer' ya got kind of a mess on your hands. If you have access to some good grass then sometimes the 'spring flush' can be excellent for these kinds of calves (it is in our country). Allows them to get lots of good feed and they can straighten themselves out (somewhat, anyway). If he's 9 months old and still having these problems may may not ever be real good beef. Hamburger steer, maybe.
He can get better. I'm a grass kind of a guy so I've told you all I know. Some guys on here are lots better with mixed rations.
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I'll try to be nice, you fed that growing weaned calf like a
mature adult and it will not work any better than limiting a
teenage boy to the same amount of food his grandpa eats. He
may still overcome it but it will take time, he needs good food.
See post #2 on this thread.
When you compared him to your own calves, the ones with a mother
still getting milk, that was unfair to him. If you'd givin him a
bucket of milk a day he'd done better too. Plus he was trying to survive in the winter.
He didn't get this way overnite and can not get over it overnite.