420 illegal users finally targeted

[drdiederich]

I have a clue, you just take away their licences dr. Are you really that bad a driver, and why not just ban you? (I realize I'm a smarta$$!)

I'm that great of a driver... it's all the other idiots out there. If we TRULY want safe roads the only way to do it is to not have drivers. Cars are inherently dangerous, and people are inherently flawed. It is really no different than a gun. If people think banning guns makes sense than so does banning driving. My point is more that people are flawed, no amount of policing or law making will ever resolve that issue... unless we decide to go the route of THX 1138 and drug everyone into being mindless thoughtless zombies.

I realize you were just having some fun with me, but I thought I would take the opportunity to flesh out my thought.

[Pick-Six]

Brian, In the first place, I am not a prude. Here in my part of Okla. we rarely drink. Some of the younger one in the country have gone to the bad and do pot. Pot itself is not the problem that meth, cocaine and heroin is. I enjoy a drink as much as anyone , but one or two a month would be my portion for any month of the year. I know very few people who drink or do drugs. We are in the bible belt and our joy comes from serving the Lord.Please do not think of me as trying to put you down. I realize the regional differences of where you were raised.I was fortunatley in the south with very religious forefathers. If i came home with alcohol on my breath, even as a senior, I would get the beating of my life. One of my sons got on m j and was pretty heavy into that and then beer . He drank 20 beers a day and got to the point where he did not want to do anything. Not even tell my other hands what to do except to Go to Hell. He had a blood clot in is leg, was in hospital, and was told not to drink any beer with the meds. He is a totally different person. My take on that is to thank god first that he is alive with a serious blood clot, but that he is now off of beer and pot.

Thank you for this post!

My folks are afraid of God and don't drink. God is scary to those Catholics. My inlaws think that anyone who believes that Jesus is their savior will go to heaven no matter what. They are not afraid of God. God is sort of a loving friend or whatever to Lutherans I guess. A friend who likes to see them hammered.

Who you are around probably makes the biggest difference? In that regard I suppose Agweb is generally good for me. At least better than other social functions I attend.

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Last night I'm driving home from MT, passing a semi on slushy roads and I get a text. It takes REAL DISCIPLINE to ignore it until you hit a flat stretch. I probably receive 50 texts a day and drive 80,000 miles a year on stretches of road where there isn't another car except every 20 minutes. It's incredibly hard not to creep FB or AW on the road. There should be an app for that, you know, not allowing a phone in motion to work.

A demolition derby of stoned drivers is safer than texting drivers. Youth can't not text. They are incapable. My guess is they would give up cars or sex as long as they can pisz with their phone. It's a wonder any of us are alive.

[Bill inWisconsin]

I'm that great of a driver... it's all the other idiots out there. If we TRULY want safe roads the only way to do it is to not have drivers. Cars are inherently dangerous, and people are inherently flawed. It is really no different than a gun. If people think banning guns makes sense than so does banning driving. My point is more that people are flawed, no amount of policing or law making will ever resolve that issue... unless we decide to go the route of THX 1138 and drug everyone into being mindless thoughtless zombies.

I realize you were just having some fun with me, but I thought I would take the opportunity to flesh out my thought.

Well, as I have been trying to tell people. If every gun could be truly eliminated, what would stop some crazy from taking a car out onto a playground and running over a few dozen children? Then I guess we would have a national debate over taking cars away from people because of the danger.

[Pick-Six]

This picture pretty much sums up a few crazy people's dyslexia and hypocritical attitudes on pot.

[glowplug]

Oh wow, (should be "oh wow, man") leave it to govt. to grow it's bloated bureaucracy to even greater size. The state of WA is now hiring "experienced" pothead bureaucrats......lol.


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[glowplug]

Medical Marijuana? No Guns For You!


You know that 4473 form? Yeah, the one that asks about the use of illegal drugs?

Well, what about medical marijuana -- if it's legal in your state?

Guess what -- there appears to be a rather strong presumption at the federal level that this is a disqualification for ownership of firearms!

33 states had not submitted any records even though the law bars anyone with multiple arrests for drug use or possession within the past five years, or those convicted for use or possession within the last year, including marijuana. Yet the report found states with lengthy registries of medical pot smokers did not provide that information to the NICS system.

Why would the states submit lists of medical marijuana users to the NICS system as prohibited persons when they are, under state law, lawful marijuana users?

Ah, Kemosabe, now we see one of the problems with these laws, eh?

This looks like something that is going to severely play hell with people who were foolish enough to believe that their state laws would protect them...... and incidentally, if you bought a gun while having a medical marijuana "prescription" and answered "No" to that question on the 4473, there are those who would argue you committed a federal crime and should be prosecuted for "lying" on that form -- including, it appears, President Obama and Biden! (Since obummer doesn't really shoot skeet this is questionable.)

Most of you folks in those states are "hard blue", yes?

How 'ya gonna feel when the guy you backed for President locks your a$$ up for 10 years and gives you a permanent felony record on top of it?

The government is your friend..... right?

Ps: Oh oh -- there is an actual BATFE letter on this. If you have bought a gun while in possession of a "medical marijuana" card (or prescription, whether it comes with a card or not) you are, according to the BATFE, a federal felon and it appears they are going to try to force the states to turn over the lists of those people and may well come after you.

[glowplug]

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (CBS St. Louis) — A Kansas City high school will begin collecting hair from students to conduct mandatory drug tests.

KHSB-TV reports that Rockhurst High School will start the random drug testing during the 2013-14 school year.

“Our point is, if we do encounter a student who has made some bad decisions with drugs or alcohol, we will be able to intervene, get the parents involved, get him help if necessary, and then help him get back on a path of better decision making, healthier choices for his life,” Rockhurst Principal Greg Harkness told the station.

The school will collect 60 strands of hair from the student and test for several types of drugs, including marijuana and cocaine. If a student comes back with a positive drug test, that student will have 90 days to get drug-free. The station reports the file will be destroyed for a student who tests positive after graduation and colleges and universities will never know about the failed test.

Matthew Brocato, the school’s junior class president, told The Kansas City Star that the mandatory drug testing is not to punish students who fail.

[Tall Grass]

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (CBS St. Louis) — A Kansas City high school will begin collecting hair from students to conduct mandatory drug tests.

KHSB-TV reports that Rockhurst High School will start the random drug testing during the 2013-14 school year.

“Our point is, if we do encounter a student who has made some bad decisions with drugs or alcohol, we will be able to intervene, get the parents involved, get him help if necessary, and then help him get back on a path of better decision making, healthier choices for his life,” Rockhurst Principal Greg Harkness told the station.

The school will collect 60 strands of hair from the student and test for several types of drugs, including marijuana and cocaine. If a student comes back with a positive drug test, that student will have 90 days to get drug-free. The station reports the file will be destroyed for a student who tests positive after graduation and colleges and universities will never know about the failed test.

Matthew Brocato, the school’s junior class president, told The Kansas City Star that the mandatory drug testing is not to punish students who fail.

Rockhurst High SCHOOL is for the rich kids. Using GAS CHROMATOGRAPHY would bankrupt any other district.

[420]

This looks like something that is going to severely play hell with people who were foolish enough to believe that their state laws would protect them......

A quote from someone who believes in a strong central government. Myselfe I believe in states rights, government by the people,not big brother.