48: What gets tiresome is the fact you fail to understand the rule. Even though the rule does not say word for word that there must be a "force at third", when it says there needs to be less than two outs, and with runnres at first and second or first, second and third, which in BOTH cases means there is a force at third, right? THOSE are the only times the infield fly rule can be called. It can not be called with a runner only on first. Yeah yeah, you were trying to keep it simple.
When a batter is at the plate. And when runners are on first and second OR when runners are on first, second or third, there is a force at third on a hit ball right? I mean that fact is baseball 101.
As soon as the infield fly rule is called, the batter is out. Which REMOVES all force plays, and the runners can advance at their own risk.
Now, I may not have watched much baseball this year. But it's not like I have never watched the game. And I umped HS baseball games one spring while in college for extra beer money. I do understand the rules and the game.
DFM that is the rule and an out. We were coming up from Memphis with son who is a priest and a nun from Austria. She really liked the look of cotton in the fields of the Delta. We got off the road and pulled up a cotton plant for her and she pulled severals bolls to take back to Europe. She thought the cotton would be taller and told her it had been in the past but now with GMO seeds easier and cleaner to pick. We stopped at Lambert's in Sikeston as she had seen on European tv. It is the first time I have ever been there and been making the trip for 52 years. We began listening to the pregame about St. Geniveve, Mo. We got to my aunt's place in South County and she visited with family before taking her to place for retreat. She could not believe my passion and interest in the game. Joe said he told her in German after we came back to house that my father gets that excited when all of the cows come home from the Tyrolean valley of their farm. We have more rules in baseball than the cows have for coming home.
48, I think you must be a closet dimrat in dismissing the rules. I must apologize as too over confident with Carpenter pitching last night. I watched the replay today and two bad calls were made, but the Cardinals would have lost due to inability to hit. The bad calls by the umps were not an excuse for the loss. I cautioned my brother in Boston in his optimism when he called. Nothing is easy in life and winning is very difficult with good opposition. All of these teams have well skilled athletes. What is good about the Cardinals as 17 on roster came up through system not counting David Freese who played in Memphis a couple of years. The Giants and Yankees have 8 on respective roster and Tigers have seven. My younger son in stan went to ODU and took bp against Justin Verlander and John was older. Matt Cain is from my area. This is a condition who executes the best at a certain time in history. It denies no ability to another. 48, you have taken this away from any thread of intelligence. I did not establish the rules. It was an out and runner advance on own peril when the arm is raised. In the event you watched the replay Kozma was out there with plenty of time to catch the ball. The umpire made the correct call. Have we become so lost in stupidity that we fail to recognize achievement for too "indefined" rules? Who is the arbitrer for changing the rules? I think it the dimrats.
What we always tell our players is not one single play loses a a game for you. Everybody wants to blame the officals for GB losing to Seattle. And there are those who wanted to change the rules and give GB the win, and they compeletly gloss over the EIGHT sacks the GB O-line gave up in the first half. Two wrongs don't make a right. The right call was made in Atlanta, as the infileder got out to the ball under "ordinary" effort as seen by the ump. Refs and umps are human, and they make mistakes, unless you are 48. The Cardinals do it the right way by building through the farm system, and being willing to cut ties with over paid heroes. The Twinkies would do well to re-learn that lesson.